Obama's Clean Energy Future  

Posted by Big Gav

Grist reports that Democratic nominee Barack Obama is calling for a "clean energy future" (hopefully he doesn't mean "clean" coal or nuclear power, but maybe I'm being too optimistic).

Not to let Obama steal the show entirely, John McCain also gave a speech tonight in New Orleans, in which he painted himself as "the right change" and Obama as "the wrong change." He talked up his energy policy as one of the ways he'd bring about that change: "No problem is greater than America's dependence on foreign oil," said McCain. The next president "must be willing to break with previous administrations ... and put us on a course to energy independence," he said, proceeding to criticize Obama's record on energy.

But Obama also had fighting words for John McCain on energy: "Maybe if he went to Pennsylvania and met the man who lost his job but can’t even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one, he’d understand that we can’t afford four more years of our addiction to oil from dictators."

Obama continued: "That man needs us to pass an energy policy that works with automakers to raise fuel standards, and makes corporations pay for their pollution, and oil companies invest their record profits in a clean energy future –- an energy policy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced. That’s the change we need."

Also at Grist, Dave Roberts looks at a revival of plans for space based solar power collectors (echoing Isaac Asimov's long ago call for a "stable world order" providing power to the people using the same mechanism - some ideas never die it seems). Overall it would seem that large scale CSP in the deserts would be much cheaper and easier to implement.
CNN takes a look an energy long shot that could change the game on climate change: space-based solar power. The idea is to launch satellites covered with solar panels up into geosynchronous orbit, where the sun is always shining, and beam the power back down to land-based receivers. A 2007 Pentagon study concluded that "a single kilometer-wide band of geosynchronous Earth orbit experiences enough solar flux in one year to nearly equal the amount of energy contained within all known recoverable conventional oil reserves on Earth today."

The article focuses on the obvious problem: cost. Back in the '70s when the U.S. was looking at this seriously, NASA concluded getting all the infrastructure up into space would run about $1 trillion.

That's a lot. It's only about a third of what we'll end up spending on the Iraq war, though, and if it buys basically limitless clean electricity, it will be a bargain. But NASA has blown it before, and betting $1 trillion is a bit much.

What I want to know is: Are massive microwave beams of power shooting through the atmosphere not cause for worry? Think of the birds!

6 comments

Anonymous   says 4:44 PM

Catalyst did it a few months back and it's worth watching:-

1. The microwaves would not hurt people, planes, or birds.

2. It would be a great reason to set up a moon base which could turn moon dust into silicon, and launch the solar satellite from the moon where there's already a much smaller gravity well. Setting up base on the moon, powered by it's own orbital solar satellite, might then not only become a means of making space solar more economical but be the first step towards setting up a real space industry one day taking us to Mars.

I don't fancy the idea of a very large "microwave gun" sitting above me, frankly. Are we so naive not to see that it is a potentially dual purpose device... that's my tinfoil input.

:-)

I always thought you were more of a leftie SP - that's some prime libertarian / nationalist tinfoil territory you are encroaching on !

For those who don't understand what on earth (excuse the pun) we are talking about, if you watch the Asimov talk I mentioned (and linked to a few months back), he was addressing the secular humanist society about the dangers of global warming (back in the 1970's) and described his stable world order / space based solar power scheme as the solution to this problem.

Its the stuff of populist nightmare, and if you showed it to the average Alex Jones type of tinfoil addict they'd freak out exceptionally rapidly...

Oh - and the reason they'd freak out is because they'd view it as a Malthusian / Illuminati depopulation conspiracy (and/or attempt to monopolise the world's energy supplies).

Well mostly joking...
Still I wonder at the rational for such a huge infrastructure project at the top of the gravity well.
Yes, we could put large solar panels up there... but why not just spread them around down here for a lot less energy cost where they can be maintained easier.

Well - garden variety cynicism would guide you to the theory that the aerospace industry / military industrial complex would make a lot of money from a space based energy collection platform - vs nothing for ground based solar or wind farms...

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